As a program developer I worked with the National Sailing Association (www.watersportverbond.nl), Bart van Roessel on the development of teaching programs. The focus was on transparency in competences-based learning to have a more realistic program to make sure we have qualified staff for the next decade. The thing we are most proud of is that we used a lot of ‘user-experiences’ in the process of developing a course. Testing the learning outcomes with several stakeholders made it a very good and also challenging process.